This has been pruned since people can’t keep it civil. It will be closed if it continues.
Thanks Chris, it totally went in the wrong direction! Glad you took that off. Anyhow, see you at the meeting and thanks for the information. Education is key here, and if we, as parents, can ask even just for the permission for our children to skate in front of our homes on the side street. Families, including my own, ride bikes down this side street constantly, so I’m just asking that people see it as the same thing, just a different toy being played with. I don’t approve of breaking rules. I’m just stating that this rule should be changed. This rule isn’t protecting the community, it holds no purpose and I believe it’s probably outdated. A lot of people don’t like change, but I really don’t think that changing this rule is going to impact anyone in a negative way. It’s going to help the kids be able to be kids! Summer is knocking on our door, and my husband makes skateboards, so he and my son are eagerly awaiting to get out there and play! I hope they don’t get a ticket for it! YIKES!
Well, you can’t really use that comparison of skateboards to bicycles, they are both forms of exercise, entertainment and travel, but in Pennsylvania, a bicycle is considered a vehicle and is legally permitted to ride on the road while adhering to certain rules.
Thanks, but I guess that’s what I’m trying to get approved, but w/restrictions. I’d like it to be legal to ride a skateboard on the street with restrictions. Not on main, busy streets, but on the side of side streets. You couldn’t block traffic, you would have to adhere to the road signs, etc. So that was the angle I was using. I would like to change that. Helmets need to worn and all of the regular safety gear while riding your skateboard. We ride bikes too, but sometimes would like to skate to the snowball stand. That was the point I was trying to make, so that is why I compared it to the bike. The bike is legal to ride to the snowball stand. The skateboard isn’t. Want to change that. Will take ideas to the next Borough meeting on 4/21 and try and get some of the other parents that agree to accompany me. Thanks again.
With school taxes through the roof, gas at $3.30 + per gallon, groceries & everything else up in price, please don’t look for the community to eat this one too. Enough is enough.
I have no problem with the kids having a designated area to skate. I do have a problem with paying for it. The options of local business monetary involvement, grants, etc. is the way to go, along with if the parents of skaters wish to chip in, go for it.
Just don’t ask me for anymore, the well is dry.
You’re right. Let’s not spend that money on the kids. I don’t expect the community to pay for it. I don’t expect anything from this community. Besides now learning these silly rules we have, I learned that too. This community is not open to change. Can’t wait to move!
I would like to see what prompted the board to enact the skateboarding policy. Perhaps someone was run over and killed or maybe a driver hit a pole or pedestrian trying to avoid a skateboarder that was in the street. I agree that many of the rules and regs that are out there look really foolish on the surface, but sometimes there is some good reason that it was enacted. I believe that our police act with common sense and they are not going to run someone in for skateboarding or jaywalking. The lights should be on for the protection of all during any stop where they are blocking traffic or safety issues are involved.
I also have no problem with a designated skating area. I feel that it should be a joint effort between the recreation councils, businesses and interested participants through usage fees, but it should not be an additional burden on the taxpayer.
Sounds great! Let’s do it! All makes sense, so I’m excited to see if we make some changes and perhaps get a designated skating area. I’ll help pay for it. My husband will supply and build all of the ramps. Maybe they get a corner of the basketball courts or the back end of the parking lot at the community center. Would be excellent! All good suggestions. Thanks.
i’ve beeen a skater since i got my first “banana board” bakk when i was five [1979]!!!
i skated day in/day out until i finallly had to bukkle down and do the 9-5 work weeek thing…
i just broke out the board 2 days ago and tried to get in the warm weather spirit!
so how and when and where do i sign up to help get a legal skateboarding area or park setup?!
i’m in 100%!!!!!
ps to Twisted Sister ::
i also do graphics for boards… neeed any help?!?
I’ll have my husband get on this thread tomorrow (going to see Rat Dog tonight) and pm you to talk about graphics. He custom paints and grip tapes his boards. He cuts them himself. He has a couple different designs as far as the boards go. He makes boards for our age group as we aren’t little light kids anymore. He has one for sale at the skate shop, and there a couple of kids riding his boards in the neighborhood. He just cut one using a Zorlac template, so he’s pretty excited about that. He’s mentioned some people that could do graphics for him, so I know he’d be interested in talking to you.
I’m going to post another thread next Monday to invite people to join us at the Borough meeting to push this along a little. I believe the police officer on this thread was the one that said that we need to voice our opinions there and not just sit and complain. I think it was him or it may have been one of the other people. Anyhow, I totally agree with whomever said it. It’s all good to make it known on this website and talk about it in the neighborhoo, but we actually need to go to the meeting and be heard there. So, the next meeting is Monday, 4/21. Perhaps we can get together before then and talk about the pro’s as I’m sure there will be a slew of con’s thrown out at us. THanks for your comments!
Hmm, not exactly sure what would have originally prompted the policy, although from my memory some folks were either hit or ran off the sidewalk by some skateboarders, and complained. Now one complaint rarely changes things, but the thread below brings some things to light and probably helps explain the policies…
...foul language, unsafe actions, destruction of park property, inconsiderate behavior, running people off the sidewalk, playing chicken and creating unsafe driving conditions..........sorry, but it does happen, and isn’t it a shame that kids like that ruin it for everyone?
That thread also has links to the “how to start a skatepark” information from the Hawk Foundation that I posted and two requests from Councilman Bruening for parents interested in a skatepark to contact Harp and or come to a meeting. In fact, did you know a skatepark at one point in time was on the long-term plan of HARP? Maybe it still is, but you won’t know unless you call them and go to a meeting and discuss it. And any discussion at all of using recreation or park land for any skatepark is again one you need to have with HARP.
I guess the frustrating part for me is that from time to time there seems to be interest, but above are posts from two years ago that showed interest but fell short of any action due to no involvement, no participation, no volunteerism, and no grass-roots organization or leadership.
Maybe this time it’ll be different
[ Edited: 08 April 2008 02:17 PM by Chris_McGraw ]
Just had to chime in...RatDog in a skating thread. Is Bobby a skaterat?!?!?! I’ll be there tomorrow night - working tonight :(
Bobby is not a skaterat that I know of, wish I could get down there but it’s not gonna happen this go round, enjoy tomorrow and let me know how it was. I just downloaded Phil & Friends Langerado 3/9/08 from archive lastnight though, good stuff Current lineup w/ Jackie Greene is very nice if you haven’t heard nice, insane young guitar player who’s giving P&F;a completely different feel right now.
The recent Ratdog aud shows at the Beacon are up on archive but I haven’t taken a listen to them yet. I have ton’s of hours of GD, Mule and others, pm me if you’d be interested in trading some live tunes
Now back to your regularly scheduled skatepark discussion....
Thanks for all the Rat Dog info! I was a dead head in my time. Toured all over the country for a couple of years. Bobby is definitely not a skate rat, but I’m extremely diverse when it comes to my interests! I live life with an open mind and an open heart! That’s why I don’t like hearing the words “Can’t” and “Don’t”! Anyway, this is all great stuff, and I will contact HARP. Thanks so much, and maybe all we need was a dead head to get a grass roots movement going. I’m gonna roll with it and see where it takes us. You guys/gals have been great. I’m heading downtown for a reunion of sorts. PEACE OUT!
Well, well, this thread really makes me laugh!! LOL !!!
If your kids want to sk8...take them to the sk8park on the trail. It’s not that big of a deal. You’ll drive all over the southern end where you live to eat, shop, and complain about too many of this & that; but it only takes 15 minutes to drive your kids to the skatepark???
Good grief already! Has anyone ever heard of the words “help out one another & car pool”??? Geez Louise!
I live in East Hopewell. My son goes to the sk8park almost every weekend. He LOVES skating & Mr Bob. He is safe, learning how to be independent, make new friends and has learned that he needs to save money if he wants a new board, wheels, etc.
He is 9 years old!
He respects the rules and doesn’t whine & complain when he is told that he can not ride anywhere but the park. PERIOD.
His friends have also started to go with him. Their parents have seen what a little freedom to skate under supervision can do for self esteem.
Sounds like you would rather complain than to drive to use a facility you already have!!! Get a life.
Sounds like you would rather complain than to drive to use a facility you already have!!! Get a life.
We too go to the skate park. Mr. Bob is the MAN! We love him! Frequent there often. I have a life, just want to make it a little richer by adding a little more freedom. Thanks though. This all started with the frustration of a kid getting pulled over for skating to the skate shop. I understand the cop was doing his job. You must admit the mental image of a kid being pulled over on a skate board looks much like a Far Side comic in the paper. When something that ridiculous happens, I just have a hard time letting it go. Especially if I think something can be done to keep the cops from having to be bothered and to allow the kids to skate to the skate shop. Skateboards are for pushing, not for carrying! THanks for your input, and no hard feeling. C u at the skatepark!
I’m glad to hear that you visit Mr Bob. Couldn’t imagine my kids not ever spending time with him.
He is a little goofy, but I am too!! He does a great job teaching those boys how to show some respect to adults. I have been going to help out occasionally & they all know who I am & they are polite to me.
It’s a shame that some kids don’t have parents who are concerned for safety & laws. Maybe they are Tweens & teens who think they can do what they want. I feel that the police should enforce the sk8 board laws and fine them. Just my $.02
A number of years ago, several old ladies were squeezed to the edge of a sidewalk, or so the story goes. They complained, and rightly so. Kids were skating in the streets causing safety issues. The borough did what 60 or so other municipalities have done in York County… punished all instead of those who are at fault. Common practice in Government today, and I can not truly blame them. Our society encourages too many law suits.
We own and operate Our Place the skate park just north of Shrewsbury, and for fear of seeming like shameless advertising, we have been providing a safe place to skate for nearly 7 years. We are drug, alcohol, tobacco and attitude free zone, a place where kids can just be kids under the supervision of adults who care.
The issues with municipal skate parks is about the same as rec centers… you can not just build a skate park and say...’ go on kids, have at it.” it needs to be supervised ! and that costs bucks. Without supervision you will have issues. That has been proven all over America and throughout Europe.
Maybe the officers could just pull up and tell the kids not to skate… a warning. Then bust the kids that are persistent problems. But remember, the council makes the laws, and they represent YOU ! Therefore, YOU can change the law through the council.
