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Stewartstown Railroad Owner’s Passing
Posted: 25 June 2008 09:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Things happen slowly here.  There havent been many changes around here since I moved in, but I havent seen any that really upset me.

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Posted: 25 June 2008 11:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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HNizer - 24 June 2008 09:24 PM

In my opinion the Stewartstown Train Station should be restored similar to what was done in New Freedom. This would cost lots of money as the roofs, concrete retaining walls, concrete sidewalks all need to be replaced, the bricks needs re-pointing/ repair, parking is needed, etc, etc, etc. Than the station could be used as a museum, small shop, whatever. It could once again be a valuable asset to our community rather than an eyesore. The railroad aficionado’s should be focused on raising funds to restore the station and beginning the work.

As far as the actual rail line/ tracks, the right-away should be given to the York County Rail Trail Authority to be converted into a walking/ biking trail that would serve our community.
The Authority has expressed an interest in a Stewartstown to Shrewsbury rail trail.

The reason I believe this to be the best option is because the tracks are so deteriorated (especially when you get west of Baily Springs) that restoral to service would be cost prohibitive. The insurance costs alone would never allow the train to run and carry passengers again. Plus the maintenance to restore the tracks to safe service would be astronomical. A third or more of the railroad ties would have to be replaced and hundreds of missing iron pins would need replacement for the tracks to be safe, not to mention repair of at least two bridges. If you doubt this, walk a couple miles west on the tracks. Anyone who says the train will run again carrying passengers or freight is deluding themselves. I like trains as much as anyone, but it just is not going to happen. Too much money! Not enough interest or need.

I urge the folks involved with the railroad and the Borough to get moving on some workable plans, as currently the train cars are rotting and rusting away, the station building has deteriorated into an eyesore and the tracks are getting overgrown with weeds. This is not a pretty sight for people entering our beloved Stewartstown.

Great thoughts Harry smile

I too would love to see it all restored and running again, but don’t really think people are looking at the realistic figures on what that would take.  Even to restore the excursion train like it was previously you’re talking about an astronomical cost and undertaking on the rail corridor.  Personally, I too like the rail trail idea, as I think it connects us to a beautiful and protected recreational area that stretches from Cockeysville to York, and probably brings more beauty. business, and visitors to our town. 

I’d like to see the station and the rail cars restored to where they could all be a walk-through museum that would house all the old railroad memorabilia, possibly doing this in conjunction with the Stewartstown Historical Society.  But the money required to so something like that may be out of reach just locally raising funds, more of a combination solution might work better.

I would hope that folks from the Stewartstown Railroad and the “Friends” look at all the options and don’t lock themselves into just one (restoring the train to running status) with blinders on.  I would think that the Rail Trail Authority would be interested in talking about what could be done as far as restoration with the stations, cars, engine house, etc. in the event that the rail trail is a viable option. 

The train is a huge piece of national history, not just in this state.  I would hate to see it continue to deteriorate beyond what it already is while funds are slowly raised for a supposed solution down the road.  Prior to the owners passing, administration and getting things done were poorly handled, I certainly hope that some infrastructure and leadership is being put in place to quickly start making things happen.  The YDR article is nice, but not much more than the same stuff that’s on the “Friends” site.  My concern is that the remaining leadership is focused on only recapturing the history by restoring the railway, when there certainly might be other ways to recapture the history without a full restoration. 

I know people are passionate about the railroad, I just hope that passion doesn’t blind them to other solutions that could showcase our long railroad history and beautify our town.

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Posted: 24 July 2008 04:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Another article...with some potentially good news…

http://ydr.inyork.com/ydr/newsfull/ci_9954087

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Posted: 25 July 2008 11:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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It would be great if that all works out.  The coaches are need of lots of repairs too.  Many of the windows are broken.  I think about how sad it is everytime go to the bank machine.

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Posted: 25 July 2008 01:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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The ironic thing about this story is did anyone notice the exempt signs that went up a week or so ago for all of the railroad tracks.  That means they aren’t in use anymore ....right?

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Posted: 25 July 2008 02:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Teresa16401 - 25 July 2008 01:11 PM

The ironic thing about this story is did anyone notice the exempt signs that went up a week or so ago for all of the railroad tracks.  That means they aren’t in use anymore ....right?

I ‘Think’ those exempt signs have been up for more than a week. I believe it means that vehicles that normally have to stop at a crossing do not have to. Here is an excerpt from a Wisconsin DOT regulation in accordance with FRA and other agencys they will be simialr in all states:

These vehicles include buses transporting passengers; school buses conforming to Section
347.44(1), W.S., vehicles marked as carriers of chlorine, explosives, poisons, flammable
products, oxidizers, corrosives, compressed gas, and radioactive materials; and transporters
of products with flash points below 200° F or of products having a temperature above their
flash point when being loaded. However, these vehicles need not stop if there is either (1) a
police officer or flagperson directing traffic, (2) the track passes through an intersection with an
official traffic control signal, (3) a sign stating the crossing is abandoned, or (4) a sign stating
the crossing is exempt.

The criteria used to determine an exempt crossing is complex, but generally, any crossing with fewer than 6 or so crossings a week at low speeds and good visibility can be classified as exempt. Those crossing more than meet that criteria.

Hope that helps.

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Posted: 25 July 2008 02:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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And on the few times that the train used to run, weren’t there Eureka fire personnel at the crossings to stop traffic?

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Posted: 25 July 2008 02:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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velvetstevie - 25 July 2008 02:48 PM

And on the few times that the train used to run, weren’t there Eureka fire personnel at the crossings to stop traffic?

I’m not sure if the Fire Police did it or not, but there was always flagmen on board the trains to flag the trains through the crossings.
That is why I think the exempt signs have been up for a long time, but my memory is not what it used to be, so I could be wrong on that one. smile

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Posted: 25 July 2008 03:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Barnyard - 25 July 2008 02:59 PM
velvetstevie - 25 July 2008 02:48 PM

And on the few times that the train used to run, weren’t there Eureka fire personnel at the crossings to stop traffic?

I’m not sure if the Fire Police did it or not, but there was always flagmen on board the trains to flag the trains through the crossings.
That is why I think the exempt signs have been up for a long time, but my memory is not what it used to be, so I could be wrong on that one. smile

Hey Barnyard, I could be wrong too but, I do think there was someone there doing the “flagging.”

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Posted: 25 July 2008 09:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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The signs just went up in the last few weeks because the school buses that cross those tracks always did the stop and look eveyday.  And a friend of my drives those buses and told me they just went up and they would not have to do that this coming year.

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Posted: 26 July 2008 10:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Well, there’s folks in the old station today so it looks like they really are working on it.

I’m gonna join their organization so at least I can send them a little bit of money to help…

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Posted: 26 July 2008 04:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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is it my imagination or do i remember a train ride that went from stewartstown to the glen rock mill inn for a breakfast buffet?

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Posted: 26 July 2008 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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west - 26 July 2008 04:27 PM

is it my imagination or do i remember a train ride that went from stewartstown to the glen rock mill inn for a breakfast buffet?

It is your imagination. 

There used to be another train that ran out of New Freedom up to Glen Rock.  Unfortunately, that one also went belly up.

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Posted: 28 July 2008 07:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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A train used to do a breakfast run from Stewartstown to New Freedom, with breakfast at LaMottes.  That was about 20 years ago though.  It also used to do a fall excursion run from Stewartstown to New Freedom - we would wave to the train from the soccer field on Sunday afternoons.

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Posted: 05 August 2008 08:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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The York Daily Record just ran an editorial about the Stewartstown Railroad.
Go to http://ydr.inyork.com/ydr/opinion/ci_10098186 to read the article.
Restore the Train Station and the Train Cars but turn the track right away over to the Rail Trail Authority for a hiking/ biking trail.
Now that sounds like the best of all worlds for our community.
What do others think?

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