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Posted: 06 December 2002 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Can someone in the know explain to me why we don’t have coverage every day and evening?  Do we not have enough officers, is it because a couple of the officers are part time?  I’m just wondering, as our town grows in population, when will we see the importance of having an officer on in both the day and nights (at least until 11 or midnight.)

I bring this up because lastnight was a dangerous night in town, not only due to the weather conditions and possible accidents, but lots of kids out enjoying the snow and walking, while 4 wheelers and snowmobiles dangerously sped around on main street and all side roads.

Police presence was needed lastnight, and there was not an officer working. 

On a night like lastnight, calling the state police is essentially useless beyond getting the call logged, as they had their hands full on the highways and with accidents.

Inquiring minds would like to know.  Our police do a great job, I just wish there was one working when there is one needed. 

Rant mode off.

CD

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Posted: 06 December 2002 10:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Before questions concerning police coverage can be addressed I have a couple of questions.

- What time did you call the police?
- Did you call 911 or the local 993 number?
- Did the 911 folks direct you to the State Police or to York County Control?
- Did 911 tell you that the local police were on duty or off duty?

Where do you live?  The Stewartstown Police Department only provides service for Stewartstown Borough residents. If you live in Hopewell Township (aka Stewartstown Station) or outside of the town limits you only have State Police coverage.

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Jeff Bruening
Councilman, Stewartstown Borough

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Posted: 06 December 2002 01:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Thanks Jeff,

To answer your questions, I am a Borough resident.  I Called 911, not a local number, at 8:30 PM, asked for the Stewartstown Dispatch as I always have when I’ve called in the past, then asked if there was an officer on duty, the answer was no.  The Stewartstown Dispatch then directed me to the State Police so my complaint could be heard. When the office answered at the state police, I stated my complaint, where I got a brunt response of “we’ll see what we can do”.

Hope that clears things up.

CD

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Posted: 06 December 2002 04:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I’ve sent an e-mail to Chief Reid and included copies to the other Police/Public Safety committee members.

I’ll let you know what I hear back.

It is possible that someone was out on vacation, called in sick etc..

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Jeff Bruening
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Posted: 12 December 2002 02:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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CD....you know the deal, it hasn’t changed. you could have better coverage if the “chief” wasn’t alergic to darkness and the only way that will happen is if the town leaders make him work a night every now and then......sounds like you and some community reps nead to attend the next council meeting. GOOD LUCK! cheese

Jeff..sending an E-mail is a waste of time.....he has a boss......follow the so called “chain of command” but don’t expect much.

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Posted: 13 December 2002 03:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Chief Reid isn’t “allergic to darkness” as far as I know. He does, in fact, “work a night now and then.” He also works during the day, attending to the vast amount of paper work necessary to run a police department. We have been working toward a goal of 24/7 police coverage since I’ve been chairperson of the council’s Police/Public Safety Committee (14 years). We figured 7 officers would be needed. We recently had 5. We currently have 4. Attention is given to peak-time coverage...nights, weekends, when the kids get home from school, etc. but until we can provide 24/7 coverage, there will be times when we’ll have to rely on the state police.

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Posted: 13 December 2002 04:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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It is obvious that the town council has no idea about there leader. I can count the times that i have seen him working after sundown without taking my shoes&socks;off.  7 officers? this town will never see that many until the township wants coverage and that won’t be for a long long time due to poor management in the police dept. I was told that is why one of our best officers just left.  big mistake on the boroughs part.  I was also told that they did nothing to show their appreciation for what he had done to improve the community.  it’s a wonder why anyone would want to work in this sorry town for that long and be taken for granted?

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Posted: 16 December 2002 11:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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As a follow-up on police coverage: 

I’ve not had a chance to speak to Chief Reid as he was on vacation and also attending a school resource officer in Florida this past week. He and a representative from the S.E. School District were required to attend as part of our Federal Grant monies that we receive each year for the school resource officers.

I did however talk to our secretary who advised me that the officer who was supposed to be on duty was unable to get out of his driveway due to the snow.  He did contact the Chief who typically works during the day, stayed around and patrolled until 7:00PM that evening.  This would explain why the York County 911 Dispatch forwarded you to the State Police.

While I personally feel this was poor planning on the officer’s part, I also have a 4 wheel drive vehicle, live in-town and the officer does not.  This particular situation is where the new Ford Explorer, 4-wheel drive Police vehicle would have been very beneficial, as the officer on duty could have gone and picked up the next officer on duty to ensure that we had adequate coverage.  The last I had heard, Stewartstown Police Department is expecting to take delivery of the new vehicle before years end.

Concerning Chief Reid and his allergy to darkness; I agree that it is rare to see Chief Reid, out and about patrolling in the evening or on the weekends. I can say that I have seen him doing so especially during the summer, but I suspect this is because I too am outside more and see him patrolling the neighborhood.  Chief Reid typically provides coverage when an officer calls in sick, or other issues arise that would prevent and officer from reporting for duty.  As he is responsible for coverage, he gets to fill-in when coverage is necessary.  While I would also like to see Charlie out and about more often, I am also appreciative of the time spent in the office shuffling papers and taking care of the administrative stuff that the State requires.

Some of time spent in the office has allowed us to increase of police force by two officers, by obtaining Federal grants for school resource officers. These grants help defray the costs of providing police coverage locally, and allow us to provide police services to other municipalities at a rate the exceeds our costs, further helping to keep our tax rate from increasing.

It has been the council’s long term goal to increase the force to the level that would provide “24x7” coverage. I agree that this most likely will not occur until we can provide coverage to Hopewell Township, however over the past two years we have began providing service to the S.E. School District and most recently to Winterstown Borough.  Most likely the borough would welcome other municipalities that would be interested in receiving contracted police services.  In each case we have to look at the number of hours of service being requested and our available resources. I would be supportive of adding additional officer at the expense of tax payers; however I would want to know that the tax payers wanted this service improvement and were willing to pay for the additional service.

The other item of interest is about our recent loss of another police officer.
While I personally feel there are management issue’s that have resulted in some of officers leaving the force, there are also other genuine reasons which contribute to our officers leaving the Stewartstown Police force for other police districts or positions outside of police work.

It is important to note that our officer’s salary tends to be on the lower side of the pay scale compared to other police forces. There is also no opportunity in a small police force for advancement.  When your only management position is the Chief of Police, there is little opportunity for advancement.  At this point it will be a number of years before Chief Reid retires.

In the case of Gary Utter, he became a father and taking a position with the Springettsberry Township, provided a pay raise (kids cost lots of money), a contracted pay raise each year, plus opportunity for advancement and career enhancement via skill enhancement.

In the case of Office Jen, she had been our first school resource officer and she did such a wonderful job there that the school district offered her a job working as a guidance councilor.  A job where you have the holidays and summers off, similar pay or more I assume, a reduced risk of getting shot and shorter hours.

In the most recent loss to the Stewartstown Police department, Shawn Packard will be relocating his family so that he and his wife can start new jobs and be closer to his wife’s family. All in all the new jobs will provide new opportunities for both, while having the family support which was limited in Red Lion. Officer Packard in my opinion was a very good officer as were the others.  Only time will tell if our new officers can fill their shoes.

The only other item to address is the council’s knowledge about our “leader” and the chain of command.  I don’t feel it is appropriate for me to discuss this in the public forum.  I would like to recommend some options for any resident that has issues with the police department.
All police matters “following the chain of command” should be taken up with the Mayor. If you feel that the matter was not addressed to your satisfaction or not addressed at all, then the issue should be taken to the Police & Public Safety committee (Members: Guy Hook, Marsha England, and myself)

One of the problems that the police and public safety committee has discussed when there have been concerns about the police department is that the number of complaints have been minimal or that it is always the same, single resident complaining.  If we had more complaints or at least more people attending each meeting with various issues, then it would indicate an obvious problem. As it has been for the past couple years, we rarely have people attend the council meetings and even less, attend the committee meetings.

A list of meeting dates/times are listed in the quarterly newsletter and on the borough’s website http://www.stewartstown.org listed under Calendar.
A copy of the most recent and past newsletter is available under Current Events.

If any resident would like to talk to me about issues related to our local government or the police force they are welcome to do so.  My e-mail address is

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Jeff Bruening
Councilman, Stewartstown Borough

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Posted: 16 December 2002 12:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Thank you for the info Jeff, I do appreciate the research and you passing it along.

CD

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Posted: 02 January 2003 04:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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“It has been the council’s long term goal to increase the force to the level that would provide “24x7” coverage. I agree that this most likely will not occur until we can provide coverage to Hopewell Township”

ooh noo, say it ain’t so! when this happens the Stewartstown Police will be knocking down your door questioning you about why you wrote something you should not have on your sewer bill and of course the SWA people will be there as well. raspberry

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Posted: 03 January 2003 01:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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When the weather is inclement and 4 wheelers, ATV’s, snowmobiles are zooming around on roads it is doubtful that borough police or state police would consider a complaint regarding this as top priority. In most instances it would be a waste on the part of the state police to travel to the area to catch the zoomers because by the time the state police travels treacherous roads to get here the zoomers will be gone. The only thing you can do is to take a picture of the zoomers while they are zooming around in town.

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Posted: 03 January 2003 08:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Why would anyone even worry enough about a few 4 wheelers running around in the snow to even call the police? Please get a life and go shovel some snow or something.

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Posted: 03 January 2003 01:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Why worry?

Riding 4-wheelers in town is not only dangerous and stupid, but illegal.

Welcome to the forums PC wink

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Posted: 03 January 2003 10:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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if you were parked in a commercial parking lot in town, so that proper snow removal on the streets could be accomplished would you be upset if one of these 4 wheelers hit you parked car while doing do-nuts in the bank parking lot.  The cops would have difficulty chase them down oh but it’s not important. :idea: 

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Posted: 05 January 2003 06:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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CRH, I do not condone property damage and if that is the case then by all means the police should be called, my point was that just because someone is riding a 4 wheeler in the snow and doing it safely then to me it’s not a police issue, but some folks live for calling 911. I bet the phones at Stewartstown Police are busy tonight since it’s snowing and those pesky 4 wheelers are out and there is snow on the sidewalks that has not been cleared...ooh boy rolleyes 

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