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Posted: 20 April 2007 10:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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And the bill was written long before VT.

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Posted: 20 April 2007 12:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Just heard a little about background checks.  All states use the same system.  In Maryland you must wait 7 days after applying for a permit before it is issued.  VA (which uses the same system) does not have a waiting period.  That’s why you can apply and receive a permit in 10 minutes.  The reason MD has the 7 day wait is for a “cooling off” period.  (in other words if you are really mad at your spouse, you can’t get a gun and shoot them right away - this was the law makers reasoning behing the wait).
On another subject....I too grew up with guns in the house.  My father was a hunter and we FOR NO REASON AT ALL were to touch the guns.  They were not locked up, kept out of sight but never locked-up.  Back in the “good old days” when kids listened to their parents you didn’t have to worry about it.  If a child is curious then they should ask and receive answers at home, not at a friends house.  If someone wants to do harm, it doesn’t matter what the laws are.  If they want a gun they will get one.  If it’s registered and then stolen and used in a crime - what good did it do to have it registered?  Just my two cents.

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Posted: 20 April 2007 12:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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you must have been listing to wbal....smile

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Posted: 20 April 2007 02:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Pama - 20 April 2007 12:37 PM

Just heard a little about background checks.  All states use the same system.  In Maryland you must wait 7 days after applying for a permit before it is issued.  VA (which uses the same system) does not have a waiting period.  That’s why you can apply and receive a permit in 10 minutes.  The reason MD has the 7 day wait is for a “cooling off” period.  (in other words if you are really mad at your spouse, you can’t get a gun and shoot them right away - this was the law makers reasoning behing the wait).
On another subject....I too grew up with guns in the house.  My father was a hunter and we FOR NO REASON AT ALL were to touch the guns.  They were not locked up, kept out of sight but never locked-up.  Back in the “good old days” when kids listened to their parents you didn’t have to worry about it.  If a child is curious then they should ask and receive answers at home, not at a friends house.  If someone wants to do harm, it doesn’t matter what the laws are.  If they want a gun they will get one.  If it’s registered and then stolen and used in a crime - what good did it do to have it registered?  Just my two cents.

Good luck getting a PERMIT in Maryland and it actually takes up to 90 days to receive one. Virginia takes up to 45 days for a PERMIT. THe 7 day cooling off period is for buying a handgun. Two totally different topics. You do NOT need a permit to own or buy a handgun. You need the permit just to carry one. PA PERMITs take about 3 weeks to receive and a handgun purchase takes about 60-90 seconds after all the paperwork is fill out.

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Posted: 20 April 2007 03:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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[quote author="BevyJean" date="1177094938I do find it ridiculous that a he was able to buy a gun in 10 minutes, with a mental health history like he had, something has to be done about that. .

I read that there is some concern about that. Apparently, a judge had ordered him to receive outpatient counseling. The judge considered him a danger to himself and others. The way the law is currently applied in VA, you would have to be committed to an inpatient mental hospital to not be able to buy a gun. This is one area that should be addressed. If a person is found to be a danger to himself and others, then that person should not be able to legally get a gun.

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Posted: 20 April 2007 06:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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LabLover - 19 April 2007 06:35 PM

Why do people need automatic weapons and hollow point bullets.  These are not for hunting purposes.  They are for killing purposes. 

And, the raw truth is, that’s *exactly* what the second amendment is about: killing people.  The drafters were smart enough to realize that governments tend to go bad, history shows that.  They wanted to make sure that the citizenry could kill the people that needed killing, should it come to that.

The second amendment is not about deer & ducks…

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Posted: 20 April 2007 06:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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caroline - 20 April 2007 08:57 AM

PS There are no children in the house, and the gun and the ammo are kept in separate secret places.

You know what they call a unloaded gun?  A club.

If a weapon is in a place that’s not safe enough for ammo, it’s not in a safe enough place, if you ask me…

Good job facing the facts that the Bad Guys are extremely rare, but here nonetheless.

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Posted: 20 April 2007 06:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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The gun is called a Defender, and if a pump action sound dosen’t make them run, then the multiple shots will.  I was pretty quick with a gun I had never had to load or handle before, and I believe that the other suggestion is correct - if faced without ammo, a shot gun held by the barrel IS A CLUB.

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Posted: 21 April 2007 12:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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i plan on going to the court house on my 21st birthday, to apply for a permit to carry concealed firearms.  i can’t decide if i should get a revolver or a glock.  hopefully the gun dealer has some of that high ballistics ammunition.  if more responsible citizens carried guns.  incidents like the va tech massacre could be prevented.

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Posted: 21 April 2007 02:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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snook3133 - 21 April 2007 12:18 PM

i can’t decide if i should get a revolver or a glock.  hopefully the gun dealer has some of that high ballistics ammunition.

A revolver or a glock?? Two TOTALLY different handguns, thats like comparing apple to oranges. A revolver will give you 6 shots and a Glock up to 13. I carry a Glock off-duty and I like it, but you have to make your own decision. Haven’t carried a revolver since I worked in the prisons and I dont really plan on ever carrying one again, though I will go out back and shoot a revolver.

Whatever you decide, if you arent familiar with handguns, make sure you take some safety classes and always carry safely and smartly.

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Posted: 23 April 2007 04:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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if more responsible citizens carried guns.  incidents like the va tech massacre could be prevented.

Conjecture at best.  I am interested though in knowing why one would want to carry a concealed firearm.  Wouldn’t it make more sense to have it prominently displayed to act as a deterrent?

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Posted: 23 April 2007 08:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Yes and no… if I carry my weapon out in the open, everyone knows I am armed. Armed with that knowledge, they could avoid me and go after the unarmed, monitor my hand motions and out draw me, etc. If it is hidden, they are guessing when they commit a crime. They don’t know who in the gas station might be armed or who walking down the street is packing and willing to assist a fellow human being.

Plus there is the issue many have with weapons. If it is in the open, some might get creeped out. It is kind of crazy… I have a permit to carry a concealed fire arm in PA. I can legally carry a loaded hand gun but not a knife or club. Go figure…

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Posted: 30 April 2007 07:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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This topic could go on forever. If you own or want to own a gun, learn from an experienced individual. Safety should be the top priority. Does anyone know of a local buisness that can help with educating a future gun owner such as Snook? Heck, I need to get to a range for some much needed practice. Isn’t there a range near Glen Rock?
I am a proud member of the NRA. I was also taught by my father the proper respect, use and care of all types of firearms.

Just remember, if guns are outlawed than only outlaws will own them.

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Posted: 30 April 2007 07:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Yes there is a range in Glen Rock, personally have not (and more than likely will not) been there. It is right on 216, when you get off of 83. About half way between 83 and sus trial. Also a range in Timonium, Continental Arms. Both places have instructors and give classes. I believe Freedom Armory’s class schedule is online. I also agree that everyone should get training on firearms if they own them.

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Posted: 30 April 2007 09:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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The folks at Freedom Armory on 216 near Glen Rock are very nice and very informative. Safety is a priority there and they teach classes. I believe anyone that is going to own a firearm that has not previously been trained should be trained. Accidents happen from carelessness usually or poor knowledge of how your weapon works.

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