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Posted: 07 January 2008 10:12 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Anyone here got it? Was wondering if I drop Verizon phone how much will my DSL price increase since I’m paying $24.95 for Verizone DSL? I talked to Vonage and they can connect you to a third party DSL provider for $14.95 , I got the phone number and Promo code for the discount. Vonage didn’t reconize the Verizon DSL when they checked for service availibiltiy . I’m paying 46 and change for Verizon phone for crappy service or I can go with vonage for $24.95 a month and with their router i can dump my second line for the fax machine.

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Posted: 08 January 2008 08:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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We have vonage.. once in a while, calls will cut in and out, like a cell phone.. but it doesn’t happen a lot.. we have cable internet, so I am not sure of the price for you.. just remember that if your internet goes out, you don’t have a phone.  That doesn’t happen very often either, but I do make sure my cell phone is charged just in case.  Finally, it is great having all the calling features for just about $15/month.  Call waiting, forwarding, caller id.  And it is nice because your can get the phones where 1 phone is connected to your computer, but the rest only have to plug into the wall. 
All in all, I would reccommend vonage.  People we talk to never know the difference, there are no long distance charges and we never come close to using the minutes. (Our plan includes 500/month) If you have other specific questions, you can PM me

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Posted: 08 January 2008 09:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I’ve had Verizon business class DSL 3000/768 service and Vonage since 2003.

I like vonage mostly because of the features, caller id, call forwarding, multiple phone ring (cell phone), voice to text/email message conversion etc.

I do not like the choppy phone service which is a direct result in that I host a number of website, do off-site backups throughout the day etc..

I believe that Verizon will add another $10.00 to your DSL service if you do not have a primary phone number. Similar to your Cable rates if you do not subscribe to regular cable service. If however power goes out and you have a UPS, your DSL service will remain active, whereas cable service will go out.

The HARP Rec. Office has Clearview and Vonage (we use it for the flat rate, long distance, voicemail features)
The borough office had Clearview and recently switched to Verizon. Faster Speeds, service is up during a power outage (we have a huge generator).

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Posted: 08 January 2008 12:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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If you have a home alarm, check with them before switching.  We were about to throw the switch to change to Vonage, and then ADT came back and said “Sorry, the only VOIP provider authorized in your area is FIOS”.  Hmmm, considering we can’t GET FIOS, that sucks!  So, we’re still with Verizon.

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Posted: 08 January 2008 12:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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In my opinion....

The only reason ADT will “authorize” FIOS is that if the power goes out, your still protected..
If someone were to cut your power, then I really doubt that the alarm system will or will not make a difference.

You can always have ADT install the system and then switch to Vonage VOIP.. just have an electrician run two sets of wires. One to the current phone and another to the location where you will have your Vonage equipment.

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Posted: 08 January 2008 01:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Regarding your alarm system (ADT or otherwise) when the power goes out or power lines are cut, your system still funcitons on battery backup (or should).  Standard phone lines do not need power to function and is why alarm companies require them.  It is very wise to consider this for your security prior to switching to a non-landline option.

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Posted: 08 January 2008 03:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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CouncilmanBruening - 08 January 2008 12:53 PM

In my opinion....

The only reason ADT will “authorize” FIOS is that if the power goes out, your still protected..
If someone were to cut your power, then I really doubt that the alarm system will or will not make a difference.

You can always have ADT install the system and then switch to Vonage VOIP.. just have an electrician run two sets of wires. One to the current phone and another to the location where you will have your Vonage equipment.

But you wouldn’t be saving any $$, you’d still be paying two phone services.

When the power’s gone out, our alarm has been fine overnight.  I’m not sure how long the battery backup is good for, luckily, we’ve never needed to go that far.

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Posted: 08 January 2008 05:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Standard phone lines do need power to function.  Just not from you.  The power for those is provided at the switch.  When power goes out at the local phone switch, the battery backup there kicks in.  Try putting the red and green leads of a phone line in your mouth and give your house number a call.

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Posted: 08 January 2008 07:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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JustPlainC,

Let me clarify a few things for you, as well as anyone you may have confused. Standard phone lines do NOT use power at your residence to function. Large area blackouts can occur and standard phone lines will still function. Phone companies do not rely on “batteries”, but rather large backup generators and main-line switching which is a transparent function to its customers. True the red and green wires (called tip and ring) have low DC voltage of 48 volts while on the hook, and drops to 6 volts while in use. The momentary pulse to activate the ringer is around 90 volts AC but only in the 20 Hertz range (rather than 120v/60Hz house current). And by the way, I don’t know of anyone dumb enough to put anything electrical in their mouth and activate it so the odds of this happening would be very slim. Hope this accurate info helps.

**JustPlaneC modified his above posting after my response.**

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Posted: 08 January 2008 08:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I dont think I said anything incorrect there.  Perhaps not as completely as what you provided, but not incorrect.  Last time I was in a CO switch, the wall was covered with batteries.  As this was in NJ, it could have been more of a power filter than a backup system.  And I am quite aware of what tip and ring are.  Most people would understand the green and red wires, as that is what they see.  Nothing on them says anything about Tip and Ring.  Anyway, I was stripping a pair of lines on a test system involving some colocated modem switching equipment.  I needed to wire a line into a piece of test equipment in a hurry, so I did the easiest thing.  At that time, a call came in on the test system I was working with.  It hurt.  I have never stripped phone lines with my teeth again.

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Posted: 08 January 2008 11:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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So I guess if I where to switch to Vonage I would be best to use their third party DSL. I will call Vonage back and also ask what is the total charge on top of the $24.95 phone price.

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Posted: 09 January 2008 03:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I don’t know what 3rd party Vonage would use for DSL, but they would still run over Verizon’s network. Dry loop DSL from Verizon should run an additional $5/mo.

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Posted: 10 January 2008 04:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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OkTim_K thanks , but I would be dropping verizon all together and use vonage phone and their third party dsl. Just that verizone phone is $46 versus $24.95 and dsl $29.99 versus $14.95.

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Posted: 10 January 2008 07:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Dry loop DSL is DSL without Verizon phone service. So you could get DSL for $20 from Verizon and then get whatever VoIP service to run on it. I’m not sure if Vonage has a 3rd party DSL provider than can provide DSL cheaper than Verizon, but I doubt it.

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Posted: 10 January 2008 07:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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When I called vonagem phone service for more info . I was give a phone number to call and a promo discount code to give . I was told to call them first to get or see if I could get DSL service cheaper , was told I could get it for $14.95 a month.

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