When I was a kid we didn’t have skateboards. They hadn’t been invented yet. We had crappy metal skates that attached to the bottom of your shoes. And they’d often come disconnected in the front or the back and we’d fall down.
AND WE LIKED IT!!
Oh poor Little Stephen, did you have to walk a mile to the bus stop in a foot of snow with holey shoes too????
DISCLAIMER:
Folks the above is a joke, I meant no disrespect to Stephen. I think my sister had a pair of thoughs as well…
When I was a kid we didn’t have skateboards. They hadn’t been invented yet. We had crappy metal skates that attached to the bottom of your shoes. And they’d often come disconnected in the front or the back and we’d fall down.
AND WE LIKED IT!!
Oh poor Little Stephen, did you have to walk a mile to the bus stop in a foot of snow with holey shoes too????
DISCLAIMER:
Folks the above is a joke, I meant no disrespect to Stephen. I think my sister had a pair of thoughs as well…
And if we lost the key to the skates (yes they had keys) we would break them apart and nail them to a 2x6 and make our own skateboard.
When I was a kid we didn’t have skateboards. They hadn’t been invented yet. We had crappy metal skates that attached to the bottom of your shoes. And they’d often come disconnected in the front or the back and we’d fall down.
AND WE LIKED IT!!
Oh poor Little Stephen, did you have to walk a mile to the bus stop in a foot of snow with holey shoes too????
DISCLAIMER:
Folks the above is a joke, I meant no disrespect to Stephen. I think my sister had a pair of thoughs as well…
And if we lost the key to the skates (yes they had keys) we would break them apart and nail them to a 2x6 and make our own skateboard.
That’s RIGHT!!! Rusty, nasty, bent-over 12 penney nails!! And they’d pull out and we’d hit the dirt!!
AND WE LIKED IT!!!
And it WAS a mile to school, though I had no holes in my shoes. But I am pretty sure it was up hill BOTH WAYS!!!
When I was a kid we didn’t have skateboards. They hadn’t been invented yet. We had crappy metal skates that attached to the bottom of your shoes. And they’d often come disconnected in the front or the back and we’d fall down.
AND WE LIKED IT!!
Oh poor Little Stephen, did you have to walk a mile to the bus stop in a foot of snow with holey shoes too????
DISCLAIMER:
Folks the above is a joke, I meant no disrespect to Stephen. I think my sister had a pair of thoughs as well…
And if we lost the key to the skates (yes they had keys) we would break them apart and nail them to a 2x6 and make our own skateboard.
That’s RIGHT!!! Rusty, nasty, bent-over 12 penney nails!! And they’d pull out and we’d hit the dirt!!
AND WE LIKED IT!!!
And it WAS a mile to school, though I had no holes in my shoes. But I am pretty sure it was up hill BOTH WAYS!!!
We lived in the bottom of a lake, woke up two hours before we went to bed so we could clean the lake with our tongues, went to the iron works where we had to pay $2 per day to work as fire wood, came home in the middle of the night to a dinner of rocks and crushed glass, and went to bed. And we were happy to have it.
And if you try and tell kids these days that, they wont believe you....
This whole thread is so ridiculous as to be beyond belief. So we are supposed to think the only choices for young people are skateboarding or drinking? What kind of parents and home life do these children have if these are the only things for teenagers to do? It is pretty obvious from reading this thread that skateboarders, their parents, and others who think that skateboarding is cool don’t have a clue what the law is, why the laws are in place, or why they should be. I also agree with the writer who does not want to pay for a skateboard park.
No, the only thing for kids to do is NOT to drink or skate. That did not come out of my mouth, I was stating what the kid who got pulled over said to me, and no that kid was NOT my son. I was simply stating that his comment was disturbing. My point was that there are a lot worse things for a kid to do than to be caught “skating” down the street, and I didn’t feel it warranted being pulled over. I understand that skating in the middle of the road is not safe. Walking in the middle of the road is not safe either. This kid was in plain view of all cars, not on a blind corner. He was directly in front of Gordons shop and on the side of the road, not in the middle. It should be ok for him to do that, as it would have been OK for him to be on a bike at that spot. This is my argument. Skateboarding down the street is no different than riding a bike down the street. It’s not just my 8 yo that enjoys riding his skateboard, it’s my 33 year old too. My husband that is! Skates everyday and skates to the skate shop and to the snowball stand - what a rebel, huh? Breaking the law! WOOO Big time crime up here!
Anyhow, that is my point. I want kids who prefer to skate to the snowball stand to have the same rights as the family who rides their bike. Same road, same safety requirements, so why be prejudice against the modes of transportation they use. You can’t ride a bike on 83, right? There’s a reason for that. You can ride a bike down Mill Street? Why? Then ask, why can’t I skate behind the kid on his bike? The cop would then, by law, pull me over, and not the bike rider? Doesn’t make sense to me. We were both doing the same thing in this scenario. Why am I in trouble? You’re answer will probably be that skating is more dangerous than riding a bike, and my reply is BS! Those who know how to skate with the passion of a true skater, would definitely disagree. I am not good on a skateboard, so I wouldn’t do it, but for my husband, he’s better on a board than a bike, so that would be safer for him. Skaters should have the same rights as bicycle riders and the same restrictions. That’s my 2 cents for today.
I have to tell you though, alot of this confuses me. If I had a child of skating age and they were THIS interested in the sport, I’d enlist some friends help and build a mini-pipe in my backyard at the drop of a hat, it would take probably betweeen $500-$700 and a Saturday, but would mean they could skate in their own backyard, when they want, how they want, on their own terms, under the lights, I could watch them and their friends, I could set the rules, they could have skating b-day parties, and so on. A mini-pipe allows you to practice and hone most if not all of the stuff you take to the street anyway. So I guess it just confuses me, as I would go the above route before heading down the long road of trying to change local laws regarding skateboarding, which likely won’t happen, as they are laws that are not uncommon in most small municipalities in this area, and generally based on safety.
We are definitely toying with the idea of putting a half pipe in the yard. The problem is that our yard is super tiny and we have 4 dogs, so we’d be taking away from their space to run. It’s actually more my husband than my son that has the passion for the sport. My son loves it, and he’s trying to be a good skater, but my husband is serious about it. It’s more than a hobby for him. It’s a passion. We usually have 3-5 kids in front of our house skating with him any day the sun is shining. They build little ramps all the time, and I allow the kids to skate on our property. We probably won’t build a big half pipe til our dogs are gone :(, which I don’t even want to think about as they are also considered our children! My husband would totally disagree with your statement about a mini pipe allowing you to do the same as street skating. He always says “These people just don’t understand street skating!” He says that it’s NOTHING like skating on a ramp. Anyhow, that’s just opinion. I realize that I"m probably fighting an uphill battle, but I just want the little and BIG skaters to have the same freedoms, and same restrictions as those on a bike. I think that’s fair and I think the same safety guidlines apply. Don’t skate in the middle of a road, common sense!
This kid was in plain view of all cars, not on a blind corner. He was directly in front of Gordons shop and on the side of the road, not in the middle. It should be ok for him to do that, as it would have been OK for him to be on a bike at that spot. This is my argument.
Plain view, blind corner, side of road...........none of that matters, you can’t skateboard on any street in Stewartstown Borough, that is the law here, and in many other municipalities, and I believe that is mostly based on safety.
Twisted Sisters - 17 April 2008 09:59 AM
Skateboarding down the street is no different than riding a bike down the street.
I think you’re wrong on this, and as I stated on post #17 in this thread, the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation considers a bicycle a legally permitted vehicle on the road. It’s you vs. the State of Pennsylvania on this.
Twisted Sisters - 17 April 2008 09:59 AM
I want kids who prefer to skate to the snowball stand to have the same rights as the family who rides their bike. Same road, same safety requirements, so why be prejudice against the modes of transportation they use.
They don’t have the same rights, bicycles have a legal right to be on the street, skateboards do not.
Twisted Sisters - 17 April 2008 09:59 AM
You can’t ride a bike on 83, right? There’s a reason for that. You can ride a bike down Mill Street? Why?
Can’t bike on I-83 since there is a law against it, same applies to Mill Street, there is a law against skateboarding on Mill Street.
Twisted Sisters - 17 April 2008 09:59 AM
Then ask, why can’t I skate behind the kid on his bike? The cop would then, by law, pull me over, and not the bike rider? Doesn’t make sense to me. We were both doing the same thing in this scenario. Why am I in trouble?
You can’t skate behind becuase there is a law against skateboarding in the street. You were not doing the same thing as the biker, you were breaking the law, since it’s against the law to skateboard in the street.
Twisted Sisters - 17 April 2008 09:59 AM
[Skaters should have the same rights as bicycle riders and the same restrictions.
You feel they should have the same rights, but per the State of Pennsylvania, they do not.
It’s about facts not feelings, and the fact is that you cannot skateboard legally on any street in Stewartstown Borough.
I have to tell you though, alot of this confuses me. If I had a child of skating age and they were THIS interested in the sport, I’d enlist some friends help and build a mini-pipe in my backyard at the drop of a hat, it would take probably betweeen $500-$700 and a Saturday, but would mean they could skate in their own backyard, when they want, how they want, on their own terms, under the lights, I could watch them and their friends, I could set the rules, they could have skating b-day parties, and so on. A mini-pipe allows you to practice and hone most if not all of the stuff you take to the street anyway. So I guess it just confuses me, as I would go the above route before heading down the long road of trying to change local laws regarding skateboarding, which likely won’t happen, as they are laws that are not uncommon in most small municipalities in this area, and generally based on safety.
We are definitely toying with the idea of putting a half pipe in the yard. The problem is that our yard is super tiny and we have 4 dogs, so we’d be taking away from their space to run. It’s actually more my husband than my son that has the passion for the sport. My son loves it, and he’s trying to be a good skater, but my husband is serious about it. It’s more than a hobby for him. It’s a passion. We usually have 3-5 kids in front of our house skating with him any day the sun is shining. They build little ramps all the time, and I allow the kids to skate on our property. We probably won’t build a big half pipe til our dogs are gone :(, which I don’t even want to think about as they are also considered our children! My husband would totally disagree with your statement about a mini pipe allowing you to do the same as street skating. He always says “These people just don’t understand street skating!” He says that it’s NOTHING like skating on a ramp. Anyhow, that’s just opinion. I realize that I"m probably fighting an uphill battle, but I just want the little and BIG skaters to have the same freedoms, and same restrictions as those on a bike. I think that’s fair and I think the same safety guidlines apply. Don’t skate in the middle of a road, common sense!
Don’t allow your “uphill battle” to won or lost on this forum. Make sure you follow-up with the proper avenues and groups to see if you can get it done! Everything here is talk, and nothing more.
Chris, you sure don’t make this sound possible. Seems senseless for me to even go to the meeting since it’s probably full of people such as yourself that just quote the dusty laws and don’t think they are worth changing. I have one question, and perhaps a police officer or if anyone else knows… Is the only consequence the $15 fine? If so, we’ll just pay that each time. Perhaps our payment will help defray the cost of gas in the police depts new Charger? If I know that the worse that can happen is a fine, then I’m “fine” with that. Thanks.
Chris, you sure don’t make this sound possible. Seems senseless for me to even go to the meeting since it’s probably full of people such as yourself that just quote the dusty laws and don’t think they are worth changing. I have one question, and perhaps a police officer or if anyone else knows… Is the only consequence the $15 fine? If so, we’ll just pay that each time. Perhaps our payment will help defray the cost of gas in the police depts new Charger? If I know that the worse that can happen is a fine, then I’m “fine” with that. Thanks.
Well, I’m not trying to be negative, I’m just trying to state facts. It’s a law, one that is not uncommon in municipalities in this area, I don’t determine whether it’s “dusty” or not. Is changing that law possible? That’s not for me to solely decide, but again I would urge you that if you have a problem with it, please, come voice your opinion, as I’ve stated, we will listen.
The ordinance I already posted on this thread thirteen days ago spells out the Penalties (Section 6) and Civil Fine in Lieu of Prosecution (Section 7), with all due respect, didn’t you read it yet?
I’ve seen threads about this topic come and go several times. To be clear, I firmly believe a skatepark is a viable recreation option for this community, but it takes first and foremost community planning, involvement, and infrastructure.....blah blah blah, I’ve been into all that before, posted the links, got the t-shirt. Plain and simple, there has been no desire for that leadership in the past. My fear is this will go in the same direction, I hope it does not.
I have read it several times, and seems that if you pay the $15 in the overnight box that you can avoid all of the other horrible fines $25-$300 and possible 30 days of imprisonment. My question wasn’t what does it say, but I wanted an interpretation of it. Doesn’t say what repeat offenders get, if anything at all. I guess what I’m saying is if we can just drop off the $15, then that’s what we’ll do. Also, I noticed that this was signed into law on January 6, 2003; which means it’s not to dusty at all! See you at the meeting.
Doesn’t appear that Shrewsbury and New Freedom have this skateboarding law. At least it isn’t posted on their Borough websites under Ordinance. They have things like “Dog Barking Ordinance”, so I would think if they listed that, perhaps they would also list skateboarding if it was in existance. Maybe not all Boroughs are on board which seems to me that there is room for change.
Doesn’t appear that Shrewsbury and New Freedom have this skateboarding law. At least it isn’t posted on their Borough websites under Ordinance. They have things like “Dog Barking Ordinance”, so I would think if they listed that, perhaps they would also list skateboarding if it was in existance. Maybe not all Boroughs are on board which seems to me that there is room for change.
New Freedom does, it’s on the Southern Regional Police Department Website.
Skateboarding - An established ordinance prohibits skateboarding on public streets and sidewalks and on public property where permission was not granted.
Unsure about Shrewsbury. It should also be noted that most municipalities don’t post ALL of thier ordinances, often the most used or referenced.
