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Posted: 17 June 2008 02:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Kizzo - 17 June 2008 11:41 AM

But isn’t the “cart ramp” the same thing as the handicap ramp there?  Would she have sneered at a person in a wheel chair who couldn’t get up the ramp she was blocking (probably).  Maybe if someone mentioned it to the manager at Shurfine/Saubel he could have the cart dude ask people to move along when he notices this happening?  Next time I get groceries I will be sure to mention it at the office.

I don’t think that policing the traffic lanes should be the duty of “the cart dude”.  Heck, in today’s world he may ask someone to move along and get his butt kicked or worse!  Go to BWI and look at the lanes that are marked no parking at the arrival gate and see how many cars are parked there.  The State Police are walking around telling people to move and they just go around and park again.  Absolutely no respect for the law or civility.

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Posted: 17 June 2008 02:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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And so we do nothing and it goes on.  I guess that’s life.

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Posted: 17 June 2008 03:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Kizzo - 17 June 2008 02:46 PM

And so we do nothing and it goes on.  I guess that’s life.

Unfortunately it is getting that way Kizzo.  Rude people are becoming more and more common because I believe that many kids are never taught manners, so they have no manners as adults.  JMHO.

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Posted: 17 June 2008 04:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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markG - 17 June 2008 03:41 PM
Kizzo - 17 June 2008 02:46 PM

And so we do nothing and it goes on.  I guess that’s life.

Unfortunately it is getting that way Kizzo.  Rude people are becoming more and more common because I believe that many kids are never taught manners, so they have no manners as adults.  JMHO.

Interesting, though from what I’ve seen the problem often seems to be the example the adults set rather than simply a failure to teach manners.  At my elementary school we were taught to always hold doors open for adults, greet them when they came in the room, etc.  People noticed it too.  Our parents generally set good examples as well. 

Just finished my undergrad, complete opposite experience.  Most kids were like the people who have been described in this post - major sense of entitlement, rules don’t apply to them because they’re too good/too rich to follow the rules.  Their parents are even worse. 

My sister just finished her first year of college and my parents definitely noticed a huge difference between the parents at our schools.  Shame on the adults who displayed this lack of manners as well!

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Posted: 17 June 2008 04:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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markG - 17 June 2008 02:44 PM
Kizzo - 17 June 2008 11:41 AM

But isn’t the “cart ramp” the same thing as the handicap ramp there?  Would she have sneered at a person in a wheel chair who couldn’t get up the ramp she was blocking (probably).  Maybe if someone mentioned it to the manager at Shurfine/Saubel he could have the cart dude ask people to move along when he notices this happening?  Next time I get groceries I will be sure to mention it at the office.

I don’t think that policing the traffic lanes should be the duty of “the cart dude”.  Heck, in today’s world he may ask someone to move along and get his butt kicked or worse!  Go to BWI and look at the lanes that are marked no parking at the arrival gate and see how many cars are parked there.  The State Police are walking around telling people to move and they just go around and park again.  Absolutely no respect for the law or civility.

I agree about the “cart dude” (or dudette), its not his job.

State Police doesn’t work BWI, MdTA does (with a few, very few troopers as fill ins)

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Posted: 17 June 2008 09:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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kpk33x - 17 June 2008 06:47 AM

How about the people who park diagonally across 2 parking spaces in a lot where there are no spaces?  We had a guy like that when I lived in an apartment 10 years ago.  My neighbors and I used to pile garbage up in front of his car, take his valve stems, and my neighbor superglued his door shut.  Finally someone got him towed and he stopped doing it, but it took a year for him to get the hint.
Usually this is someone with an expensive car buying more than he can afford to act like a big shot.

interesting concept, commit crimes worse than double parking, so he can get the hint to not do it anymore.  thankfully you weren’t caught smile

Hey I showed restraint - I was alone with my hockey sticks outside with his car and resisted the temptation to “accidentally” tap his headlight.

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Posted: 18 June 2008 04:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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kpk33x - 17 June 2008 09:17 PM
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kpk33x - 17 June 2008 06:47 AM

How about the people who park diagonally across 2 parking spaces in a lot where there are no spaces?  We had a guy like that when I lived in an apartment 10 years ago.  My neighbors and I used to pile garbage up in front of his car, take his valve stems, and my neighbor superglued his door shut.  Finally someone got him towed and he stopped doing it, but it took a year for him to get the hint.
Usually this is someone with an expensive car buying more than he can afford to act like a big shot.

interesting concept, commit crimes worse than double parking, so he can get the hint to not do it anymore.  thankfully you weren’t caught smile

Hey I showed restraint - I was alone with my hockey sticks outside with his car and resisted the temptation to “accidentally” tap his headlight.

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Posted: 18 June 2008 09:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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I have pulled up in front of various stores to drop off the wife to run in, and I will sit there waiting, that is unless I am impeding traffic, then I pull around the side.

And what exactly makes you different?  What makes you special?  I am quite certain that the signs say ‘No Parking’ and ‘Fire Lane, Emergency vehicles only’ and so on and so forth.  Nowhere in there have I seen anything that ever says ‘No Parking, except for you because you are special and different and it is only for a minute.’

This is exactly what pisses me off.  This sort of self importance that people take on simply because it would be a bother to go and park, and then go back to the curb.  And besides, everyone else does it, so who am I hurting. 

This attitude is a good example of what is wrong with the world.  It is a small infraction, nobody will notice, I am not hurting anyone else, everyone else is doing it’.

Since when has it become OK to do something that is against the law, simply because it is just a small infraction? 

Like I have always taught my kids, the reason you dont do something that is wrong, isnt because you might get caught.  The reason you dont do it is because it is wrong.

I will keep my eyes open for you.

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Posted: 18 June 2008 09:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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You echoed my thoughts JustPlainC.  And to the other person here who talks about taking pictures - I think that’s a great idea.  The reason the world has become the way it is, in my opinion, is because people just grumble and look the other way....  so what’s wrong with asking the grocery store manager (or any other store manager) if he can put up additional signage, or just have someone walk out and mention to the offender that the firelane is being watched and they will be ticketed if caught parking there?  Whether it’s true or not, it might make people move to a parking place.  And I agree that its not the job of the grocery cart dude (or dudette - my bad!), but when I worked in a grocery store (a million years ago) it was my job to ask people to move along if they were not loading their vehicle with groceries.  So there!
RickK - did you think you’d open such a can of worms??

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Posted: 18 June 2008 10:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Hey, you ought to see at my day care center every morning, they have asked, posted, sent home reminders to ask parents to park in a parking spot and not stop at the door to just run in, for safety reasons.  And still every day someone is at the curb, in front of the door.  It’s ridiculous.

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Posted: 18 June 2008 11:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Actually, I dont just take pictures.  I often ask the person why they think they are special or important.  I dont mind a little confrontation, and a picture is really worth a thousand words.  Recently I had a little run in with some kids trying to sell marijuana out of the playground.  I went and found them, confronted one of them, and took pictures of them.  The police found the pictures very helpful.

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Posted: 18 June 2008 11:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Actually, I dont just take pictures.  I often ask the person why they think they are special or important.  I dont mind a little confrontation, and a picture is really worth a thousand words.  Recently I had a little run in with some kids trying to sell marijuana out of the playground.  I went and found them, confronted one of them, and took pictures of them.  The police found the pictures very helpful.

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Posted: 18 June 2008 11:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Oh - sorry - didn’t realize that was you who was the picture-taker - I didn’t re-read.  I don’t like confrontation as a rule, but sometimes things just get to me and I lose it.  Last year I confronted a teenager who insisted on tailgating me all the way down Hollow, then when we turned left onto the road that connects Hollow to 851 by the Community Center (Heather Rd?) - he passed me on the left and raced to the stop sign!!  He was stuck there because of a long line of traffic - I pulled my car over next to him (on his right) and motioned for his passenger to roll down his window, which he did.  I told the driver that I know his mother (I really didn’t) and wouldn’t she love to know what he just did????  He looked very sheepish, apologized, and all of his passengers (3) apologized as well.  They took the corner very slowly when they got on 851 toward the school.  I also confronted a bus driver for whizzing past me at a very high rate of speed too.  She could have cared less.  Oh well, whatcha gonna do?

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Posted: 18 June 2008 11:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Kizzo - 18 June 2008 09:29 AM

You echoed my thoughts JustPlainC.  And to the other person here who talks about taking pictures - I think that’s a great idea.  The reason the world has become the way it is, in my opinion, is because people just grumble and look the other way....  so what’s wrong with asking the grocery store manager (or any other store manager) if he can put up additional signage, or just have someone walk out and mention to the offender that the firelane is being watched and they will be ticketed if caught parking there?  Whether it’s true or not, it might make people move to a parking place.  And I agree that its not the job of the grocery cart dude (or dudette - my bad!), but when I worked in a grocery store (a million years ago) it was my job to ask people to move along if they were not loading their vehicle with groceries.  So there!
RickK - did you think you’d open such a can of worms??

Kizzo,

Can you imagine the posts when the first person gets a ticket?  People are throwing fits because of skateboard police, tickets for rolling through stop signs!  I can hear it now.......I was only going in to get a lottery ticket and the stupid Cop wrote me a ticket.  He should be fighting real crime like skateboarders or speeders! wink

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Posted: 18 June 2008 12:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Mark - you are probably right, BUT...... if they get a ticket they have to pay (or fight) - maybe they will stop??  I’m not a fan of apathy… if you want change, you go for it and make a difference.  If it doesn’t make a difference, then you tried, right?

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