Southern York County Life

Kizzo - 18 June 2008 12:15 PM

Mark - you are probably right, BUT...... if they get a ticket they have to pay (or fight) - maybe they will stop??  I’m not a fan of apathy… if you want change, you go for it and make a difference.  If it doesn’t make a difference, then you tried, right?

I agree 100%!

Full disclosure--My sister works at Giant.  She’s a cart “dudette” and I wouldn’t want her to have to confront the folks that park in the fire lane for many reasons.  Second, I have been guilty of driving around the parking lot and pausing in the fire lane while waiting for her to get out of work.  I’ve also been politely chased off by Southern Regional PD.  So has my father.  Have we waited there again for her? Nope. 

I suppose it would be cost ineffective to have police stationed in the Giant parking lot...so that’s out of the question.  Maybe we can encourage the store manager to have the SHAAD guy do sweeps of the parking lot as a part of his security detail?  I’ll bet it’s probably already part of his responsibility--we just don’t see it!

RickK - 17 June 2008 11:35 AM

The initial post was due a woman in a dark colored Navigator who had parked in front of Saubels right by the cart ramp to wait for her daughter.  Traffic had to form a single lane to get around her and people had to manuever their carts to get past her.  My disapproving look was met with a mocking lifting of her lips into a smile and a mouthing of the words “be happy” as she pulled in front of me to leave. 

My post was just a rant.  We all know that there is little that can be done to stop people like this.  Their level of self absorbtion and sense of entitlement won’t be lessened by public censure.  I’m sure they believe that 10 items or less doesn’t apply to them, as so much simple civil behavior does not as well.

Not sure which Saubels you are talking about but the one in Stewartstown is not painted as a fire lane and it’s not posted with signs as such either.  Noticed that after reading this post.  Also was by the Game Stop and Liquor Store in Shrewsbury today and none of that is painted as fire lane or posted with signs either. 

I don’t park on the curb myself but my understanding is it’s not illegal if it’s not painted or posted.  Just people out there going about their business just in a different way than you....and yes, sometimes it’s annoying.

Interesting - I’ll check and see if the curb is painted yellow in the places I notice it the most.  Annoying yes, but you are right - if it’s not designated in some obvious way, then - oh well.

Don’t you hate it when you are in the middle of an debate, you suddenly realize you are wrong?

Regardless of the curb being painted or not, signed or not, we are all still citizens going about our business. I said earlier that I too pull up in front of stores to drop off a passenger to run a quick errand, and if I am causing an issue with anyone, I move out of the way. By the way, I would never leave my vehicle unattended in any fire lane, ADA ramp, etc..

Why would some people have such an issue with this, and then go to lengths to cause the other person problems, i.e. photograph them, and then do whatever with that pic.

If you see someone causing another physical problems, or endangering someone, then sure get involved to an extent, but if it is allowed, or is accepted by most, then walk around the distraction and go on with your time.

In the mean time, try some decaf.

Touchy about this m_nelson?  It’s illegal to park in a fire lane.  I’ve seen it done.  It ticks me off.  Otherwise, it’s rude to park blocking a handicap or cart ramp no matter the designation.  I don’t see anyone as right or wrong here… just opinions.  Don’t get so uppity.  Jeez.

The reason I am bothered by people parking in front of stores is for safety reasons. 

They block the view of traffic for people leaving the store.  You then have to stand in front of the rude person’s car and peek around to see if more cars are coming.  As a very short person with small children in tow, this is incredibly frustrating.  I don’t feel safe standing in front of an idling car while seeing if it’s safe for me to walk across potentially more traffic to my parked car.  90% of the time the idling cars are parked right next to the ramp, so when you use the ramp you have to walk within inches of the front of their car, making it impossible for them to see my son, and barely see me, due to height. 

How hard is it to park in a space?  For those who feel parking in a spot is just too much a burden to bear, please park PAST the ramp or as far away from dominant pedestrian paths as your self absorbed character can tolerate.  It would be much appreciated.

m_nelson - 17 June 2008 01:13 PM

Taking pictures of the vehicles and their plates. OMG, you should really get a hobby like golf or stamp collecting, something to occupy yourself.

I have pulled up in front of various stores to drop off the wife to run in, and I will sit there waiting, that is unless I am impeding traffic, then I pull around the side. And I would never park in front of the ramp. I’d like to think that most folks have that sort of common courtesy. But as with everything, there are a few that do not, and unfortunately, that few seems to be increasing.

Becareful out there snapping pictures of people. You may run into someone who thinks you are up to no good.

Actually, what you are doing is illegal.

The area in front of Wal-Mart is posted no parking and the signs say no parking or standing - why don’t these rules apply to you????

One other pet peeve of mine is people who make illegal left turns out of the Giant shopping center.  The police have issued many tickets, it still doesn’t stop people from making an illegal turn.  The police are fed up, the Borough is considering closing that exit or putting up concrete barriers to stop it.  Again, these are lazy people to don’t want to go to the next exit to make a left turn.  Obviously, the rules don’t apply to them either.

Let it go for pete’s sake. This whole discussion is pointless and silly. We are just people going about our business and if something we do is illegal, there are systems in place to address that.

I try to be a good citizen and if I happen to do something to annoy another I either apologize or get out of the way. I am not above any laws, nor do I think I am. I just find it humourous that all of the regular posters on this site (and its a small group of regulars) jump on the first semi-controversial topic and propogate into a debate.

If I annoyed you all, sorry. Its not my intent to perpetuate a long back and forth over something like this. What I have learned is not to put my 2 cents in at this forum because the regulars will rip it apart. Myself and my neighbors will just voyeur the site for its entertainment value from now on.

Good for you!  Bye!

RickK - 17 June 2008 11:35 AM

The initial post was due a woman in a dark colored Navigator who had parked in front of Saubels right by the cart ramp to wait for her daughter.  Traffic had to form a single lane to get around her and people had to manuever their carts to get past her.  My disapproving look was met with a mocking lifting of her lips into a smile and a mouthing of the words “be happy” as she pulled in front of me to leave. 

My post was just a rant.  We all know that there is little that can be done to stop people like this.  Their level of self absorbtion and sense of entitlement won’t be lessened by public censure.  I’m sure they believe that 10 items or less doesn’t apply to them, as so much simple civil behavior does not as well.

I tell my kids that the one thing in life that you can count on and do nothing about is that there are jerks in the world. We have no ability to change them. The only thing that we can affect is ourselves. I think that this post summed it up perfectly. There are people in the world that I think truly believe that they are entitled to more than the average person. These the kind of people that drive through parking lots almost oblivious to the fact that other people might be walking through the parking lot and that maybe they should watch out for them.

m_nelson - 20 June 2008 09:49 AM

I just find it humourous that all of the regular posters on this site (and its a small group of regulars) jump on the first semi-controversial topic and propogate into a debate.

Isn’t that kinda the point? To interact with others? I find alot of it funny as well, but its also fun and interesting to read what other folks think about it. All the forums I go to we all bicker back and forth and debate stuff.

Bye

chrisjames_71 - 20 June 2008 10:57 AM

m_nelson - 20 June 2008 09:49 AM

I just find it humourous that all of the regular posters on this site (and its a small group of regulars) jump on the first semi-controversial topic and propogate into a debate.

Isn’t that kinda the point? To interact with others? I find alot of it funny as well, but its also fun and interesting to read what other folks think about it. All the forums I go to we all bicker back and forth and debate stuff.

Bye

I thought that was the point too.  I don’t think the ‘regulars’ always agree or beat up on people with opposing views.  Haven’t we all at one time or another been the on the other side of an unpopular opinion?

Sorry, but this issue is kind of a hot button for me.  I really dont like it.  It reeks of a sense of self annointed importance.  I dont have an issue with stopping and droppign someone off.  Or stopping to pick someone up.  Loading up baskets of groceries tends to get me wound up a bit.  But to park your car and wait.  Or worse still, to park your car and get out.  Wrong.  Hell, if I had a tow truck, I would snag it and haul it off to impound.  Perfectly legal, and you would have to pay.  Maybe I am looking at a new line of business.