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Posted: 12 August 2010 01:01 PM   [ Ignore ]
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But SESD has had to be dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming.

Hate to say it, but you could replace SESD in that sentence with “Stewartstown and the Surrounding Areas” as well, if I’ve learned one thing since moving here in 91’, people East of I-83 are VERY different than those West of I-83.

Interesting??

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Posted: 12 August 2010 03:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Not interesting to me.  Color me stupid, but I have no idea what the heck that means.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 05:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Different… how so?

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Posted: 13 August 2010 10:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Wow, a new thread and all.  Here’s one example, in my near 20 years here, I have never experienced the hatred towards Marylanders over in the Shrewsbury or New Freedom area that I see and hear in Stewartstown on almost a daily basis.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 11:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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What makes you a ‘real’ resident?  Good old boys aside, if you pay taxes you have a say.  Be an inspired voter by doing research.  Do you want an Obama beggar as your speaker?  Anyone who has TV knows that Obama lied about what was in the Health care bill, AND lots more.  Let’s live free versus let big government (reckless at best) lead us down a path to destruction.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 11:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I have no idea how Obama entered this thread.

I do notice a difference between people East vs. West of 83.  Shrewsbury has more implants and diversity.  The Stewartstown area has more natives.  Shrewsbury seems more open to new ideas and change.  Stewartstown area doesn’t embrace change as much.

But I think Stewartstown and surrounding areas are much prettier and while the people are a bit more prickly, once you win them over they’re loyal neighbors.  It just takes a LONG time to win them over sometimes.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 12:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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caroline - 13 August 2010 11:20 AM

What makes you a ‘real’ resident?  Good old boys aside, if you pay taxes you have a say.  Be an inspired voter by doing research.  Do you want an Obama beggar as your speaker?  Anyone who has TV knows that Obama lied about what was in the Health care bill, AND lots more.  Let’s live free versus let big government (reckless at best) lead us down a path to destruction.

Now that’s how you hijack a thread raspberry

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Posted: 13 August 2010 12:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Linatag - 13 August 2010 11:39 AM

I have no idea how Obama entered this thread.

I do notice a difference between people East vs. West of 83.  Shrewsbury has more implants and diversity.  The Stewartstown area has more natives.  Shrewsbury seems more open to new ideas and change.  Stewartstown area doesn’t embrace change as much.

But I think Stewartstown and surrounding areas are much prettier and while the people are a bit more prickly, once you win them over they’re loyal neighbors.  It just takes a LONG time to win them over sometimes.

Yup, you and I are on the same page.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 12:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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caroline - 13 August 2010 11:20 AM

What makes you a ‘real’ resident?  Good old boys aside, if you pay taxes you have a say.  Be an inspired voter by doing research.  Do you want an Obama beggar as your speaker?  Anyone who has TV knows that Obama lied about what was in the Health care bill, AND lots more.  Let’s live free versus let big government (reckless at best) lead us down a path to destruction.

Now that’s how you hijack a thread raspberry

so glad i’m not the only one who thought this was off-topic!

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Posted: 13 August 2010 12:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I agree.  There is a BIG difference. 

Just as an example, when we were doing the silent auction fundraising for SYCP, I’d have to check to be sure but out of the 16 or so donations we received only 2 came from businesses east of Shrewsbury/New Freedom, 1 from Whiteford, MD, 2 from York, 1 from Hershey, and 1 from Baltimore.  In other words even though most of our shows later in the podcast, especially during the election were about SESD, we got about 6 times more support from folks and businesses on the other side of I83.  In fact at one point the decision was made that if the podcast were to continue, we would no longer cover issues east of the I83 corridor INCLUDING SESD since when your a non profit, you have to sort of have to dance with the one that brung ya’.

Now why we got more trust from an area we served less often . . .  who knows.  Folks east of I83 corridor were always more suspicious of the podcast.  For whatever reason, it seems to be part of the nature of the area.

Interestingly, even though you say there are more transplants west of I83 area, in many ways I find that area to be more like a lot of the parts of the state in which I have lived from a ‘community’ standpoint.  It has nothing to do with it being more or less rural as far as I could tell, it has more to do with folks acting as they are part of a common community .  It is really difficult to explain.

That said, I would agree that once you get to know people better here they are more loyal, however, the hump is so large as to be sometimes insurmountable if folks don’t have opportunities to get to spend time with you.

Again, it is really difficult to explain.  I really like the area but it does have its interesting ‘quirks’.

Interesting thread, I would like to see what more folks think on the subject.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 12:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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So you don’t believe that Obama has and will impact your lives?  Wow.  Ask your PCP how they feel about it right now.  Ask your accountant about how your local legislators are affecting your taxes.  HEAD IN SAND.  Learn more about how your LOCAL (look at other threads) elected officials lied to you.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 12:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Ship of Fools - 13 August 2010 12:01 PM
Linatag - 13 August 2010 11:39 AM

I have no idea how Obama entered this thread.

I do notice a difference between people East vs. West of 83.  Shrewsbury has more implants and diversity.  The Stewartstown area has more natives.  Shrewsbury seems more open to new ideas and change.  Stewartstown area doesn’t embrace change as much.

But I think Stewartstown and surrounding areas are much prettier and while the people are a bit more prickly, once you win them over they’re loyal neighbors.  It just takes a LONG time to win them over sometimes.

Yup, you and I are on the same page.

Maybe, but how long are you supposed to put up with them being jackasses before they decide you’re worthy of their friendship. Sounds like neighbors I may not necessarily want anyway.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 12:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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caroline - 13 August 2010 12:23 PM

So you don’t believe that Obama has and will impact your lives?  Wow.  Ask your PCP how they feel about it right now.  Ask your accountant about how your local legislators are affecting your taxes.  HEAD IN SAND.  Learn more about how your LOCAL (look at other threads) elected officials lied to you.

Start a different thread - Hijacker!

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Posted: 13 August 2010 03:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Bobby102 - 13 August 2010 12:57 PM


Maybe, but how long are you supposed to put up with them being jackasses before they decide you’re worthy of their friendship. Sounds like neighbors I may not necessarily want anyway.

We’ve been here about 10 years and plan to stay.  Though funnily enough, all the neighbors who reached out to us are NOT from this area originally.  They’re from other areas in PA or MD.  Just in the last 2 years have a few of our ‘native’ neighbors started returning our smiles and waves.  After TEN years of consistent pleasantries from our side including helping with snow shoveling, baked goods at Holidays, etc. 

I don’t hold grudges and given I’m thousands of miles away from family, it’s important for me to feel part of a community. So I do what I can to bolster that spirit.  Even if I’ve been rebuffed, I keep on being me.  I’m a big believer in not being able to change people or a situation, but I can change my reaction to people and situations.

I think we have it better than most though.  We’re in a rural developed area, not the Station/city limits where it seems like most of friction lies.  But I don’t let unpleasant people make ME unpleasant.  I just smile and move on.

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Posted: 13 August 2010 04:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I think it may have to do with Stewartstown being more transient.  On my block, over half the houses have changed hands, some more than once, since 1996 when we moved in.  So the locals may be just waiting to see who sticks around.  Shrewsbury is older and more settled.

But, the people we find most obnoxious are not the old-time residents, or the Baltimorons, they are people who moved here from other parts of Pennsylvania!!

AND I think Obama is an excellent president!!  grin

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Posted: 13 August 2010 04:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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In our little 4 road developed area only ONE house has been sold in the 10 years we’ve been here.  We’re still called the ‘new’ neighbors grin

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