Southern York County Life

I wonder how much of this is hapening in this area if any at all.  Anyone know anything?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/02/fracking/index.html?iref=NS1

There is none anywhere near here. It is mainly in the northwest part of the state. Areas like Cameron, Elk, Potter, McKean counties… think mountains mostly.

Dealing with it near my cabin in Cameron County. They made one hell of a mess this past winter with run off from improper erosion management. Shale powder into the creek beds. The water was racing down the mountain roads into the already impaired creeks… greay nasty stuff. EPA and DEP did nothing as usual.

Oh yeah… the well is run by none other than Haliburton. Thrills…

Alex - 02 September 2010 08:41 PM

There is none anywhere near here. It is mainly in the northwest part of the state. Areas like Cameron, Elk, Potter, McKean counties… think mountains mostly.

Dealing with it near my cabin in Cameron County. They made one hell of a mess this past winter with run off from improper erosion management. Shale powder into the creek beds. The water was racing down the mountain roads into the already impaired creeks… greay nasty stuff. EPA and DEP did nothing as usual.

Oh yeah… the well is run by none other than Haliburton. Thrills…

That figures! No surprise hearning that! 

Jason - 02 September 2010 06:18 PM

I wonder how much of this is hapening in this area if any at all.  Anyone know anything?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/02/fracking/index.html?iref=NS1

Last I recall reading in the local newspaper, the company that tried to pull the wool over the eyes of landowners in the southern end of the county have backed off a little. They aren’t pressuring landowners as hard as they did back in 2008. They told landowners they would pay what they deemed to be fair market valuea flat fee in exchange for drilling on their peropty. They told landowners if need be, they would exercise eminent domain to drill on a landowners property.

That’s not to be interpreted as they pulled out forever and a pipeline won’t come through the southern end of the county. There will be a pipeline whether landowners want it or not. It’s just a matter of when. 

There isn’t any Marcellus shale in this area of the state - it goes from southwestern PA to northeastern PA.  If anyone tries to tell you differently, its a scam.

ksasma - 03 September 2010 05:19 PM

There isn’t any Marcellus shale in this area of the state - it goes from southwestern PA to northeastern PA.  If anyone tries to tell you differently, its a scam.

There was an article in York Sunday News a while back that included a printed map indicating exactly where the gas pipeline was going to be installed. There was a public meeting on this issue that was held at the Shrewsbury Twp. building 2 years ago. Several attendees mentioned that they found stakes on their property without their permission. These attendees expressed their opposition to the pipeline being installed on their property. Several of these attendees happened to live in a housing development. Another attendee was a farmer in Shrewsbury Twp. whose farmfield had stakes placed on his property without permission. Another farmer in Stewartstown area was surprised when he arrived home and discovered someone placed stakes on his farmland without permission.

The public meeting was a presentation by a couple of company reps. (I prefer to refer to as company puppets. from a company that planned on building a pipeline through the southern end of the county. One attendee asked the company rep. if property owners whose land the pipeline would run through would be paid a specific amount of money every year for a period of 20 years and receive free gas. Example: ground rent. The rep. said no, and that the gas wasn’t for Pennsylvania property owners useage, but was for property owners in an adjacent state where the pipeline would be running to. There were a lot of attendees who asked the rep. questions. It was easy to notice how uncomfortable and nervous the company reps. were. The company reps. at the public meeting said the company would pay farmers a specific amount of money for the time they would not be able to farm their field until the pipleline was installed. The company rep. claimed the farmer would be paid a fair price. Another question an attendee asked was, would eminent domain be exercised if property owners refused to have the pipeline run through their property. The company rep. said they don’t like to do that but if they have to they will.

It appears the direction of the pipeline posted above is one of several pipelines proposed for installation in Pennsylvania. We may not be referring to the same pipeline.

Dang it, I saw “fracking” and thought it was a BSG thread, lol.

To JH

This conversation is not about the pipeline. It was about the process for drilling for gas in PA and surrounding states. The pipeline has nothing to do with that and is a totally different issue.

I am not disgreeing with you about the pipeline being an issue, but it is not the same one. Fracking is very destructive if done near wells.